tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post6823374507058323226..comments2023-04-20T12:46:11.858-06:00Comments on The Ancestry Insider: The Gretna Green for Death? Why YThe Ancestry Insiderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02490682912125335188noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-53308961005579776092017-05-11T15:03:26.531-06:002017-05-11T15:03:26.531-06:00I found one at last. Born in Canada and died in Fr...I found one at last. Born in Canada and died in France at age 92. I don't think so. Or if you look at other trees, he died at -8 years old. What happened to integrity?Tannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13175508728420268313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-75218815077497927712016-08-13T08:22:30.132-06:002016-08-13T08:22:30.132-06:00Susan,
Read the previous comments for the answer....Susan,<br /><br />Read the previous comments for the answer. In a nutshell, a technical genealogy standard specified "Y" (as an abbreviation for Yes") to indicate that a person was deceased. Some errant genealogy programs interpreted that as a place name. Some genealogy programs can automatically complete incomplete place names. Since "Y" is an actual place in Somme, the program expands it into a place that was never intended.<br />---taiThe Ancestry Insiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02490682912125335188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-20828140551021810512016-08-12T19:05:29.288-06:002016-08-12T19:05:29.288-06:00Nathan St. John, born 1692, Connecticut, married H...Nathan St. John, born 1692, Connecticut, married Hannah Seymour 1721 in Connecticut, <br />DIED 22 August 1768 in Y, SOMME, PICARDIE, FRANCE.<br /><br />Let's erase the "Y" and that leaves Somme, Picardie, France. Why were Americans in Somme in 1760ish?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08977797727134753607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-46420898406069048432016-03-03T21:52:35.672-07:002016-03-03T21:52:35.672-07:00It's actually NOT "a software glitch"...It's actually NOT "a software glitch" at all. It's 100% human error, caused by a suggestion accepted without thought or notice. http://ysommepicardiefrance.blogspot.com/2011/03/did-your-ancestor-really-die-in-y-somme.html<br /> flora68https://www.blogger.com/profile/15318150411477611521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-39193542374475197292015-01-10T22:39:24.535-07:002015-01-10T22:39:24.535-07:00There is a town called Y in France and it assumes ...There is a town called Y in France and it assumes that's what you mean. Silly.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10069940031401577255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-80941638431001911852014-01-03T18:23:36.138-07:002014-01-03T18:23:36.138-07:00This is a software glitch, and Ancestry should fix...This is a software glitch, and Ancestry should fix it. Somehow the Y is associated with this France place. Lazy Ancestry for not fixing this issue, don't blame it on the user!Randolph Treehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05115697674784468662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-52234045244153479222012-09-09T22:58:50.846-06:002012-09-09T22:58:50.846-06:00A few years ago I put together a little blog expla...A few years ago I put together a little blog explaining why "Y, Somme, Picardie, France" was listed on family trees as the "Place of Death" for so many people who couldn't possibly have died there. The theories about how so many people managed to traveled there to die are really hilarious. <br /><br />Check out the blog for the scoop. http://ysommepicardiefrance.blogspot.com/<br /><br />In a nutshell, NO, it's absolutely NOT "Gretna Green for Death"! LOL. Nor is it a software glitch or any kind of mystery at all. <br /><br />It's 100% human error caused by amateur genealogists carelessly accepting that "Y, Picardie" drop-down suggestion after entering "Y" in the "Place of Death" field as in "Yes, my ancestor died at some point".flora68https://www.blogger.com/profile/15318150411477611521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-31227911783952372922011-05-28T13:21:08.865-06:002011-05-28T13:21:08.865-06:00Michael - GEDCOM is actually innocent here. If sof...Michael - GEDCOM is actually innocent here. If software wants to indicate someone is dead, but has no date or place, then GEDCOM 5.5. says to put "Y" next to the DEAT tag. So either people are misusing the location for the death by sticking "Y" or "YES" into it themselves, or the software's misusing the location in a similar fashion. Either way, and not for the first time, it turns out that GEDCOM is innocent. Depending on where the issue arises, it might even be that Ancestry is innocent, though if they are, they're certainly naive to accept such data.<br /><br />Actually I did find a lot of the postings on that thread depressing. If you get weird answers from primary sources, it makes sense to believe it until proven otherwise. But weird answers from other people's trees ought to be discarded straight away - yet I saw several people repeating that "Y" was a real place in France, as if that true fact validated the tree data.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-77462373708955081962011-05-27T18:33:44.824-06:002011-05-27T18:33:44.824-06:00That is funny! Obviously, the "Y" is &qu...That is funny! Obviously, the "Y" is "Yes" when confronted with the question "Dead?" in some genealogy software. This is one of many reasons that (1) the GEDCOM format needs to be updated [thanks to the BetterGEDCOM crew for working on this!] and (2) you should never import information from other trees.Michael Haithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17838947327022663525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-4418945063091039822011-05-27T11:39:40.547-06:002011-05-27T11:39:40.547-06:00Isn't the "Y" just a misplaced abbre...Isn't the "Y" just a misplaced abbreviation for "Yes" in the PLACE field instead of a DATE field? That's why nobody dies in "N".... or do they?MomMartinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17158514975370491101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-30548529372250044422011-05-27T11:35:45.775-06:002011-05-27T11:35:45.775-06:00OK, I'll admit I'm not the sharpest tack i...OK, I'll admit I'm not the sharpest tack in the box ... What in the world IS the discussion and what is the answer? (And, yes, I know about Ypres, and WWI, etc. Is THAT the "answer" along with the "Y" meaning "why"? Sorry, I'm hot and cranky right now and in need of a cool answer.)ponyswimgalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16954750336015646359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-18017356718650381682011-05-27T10:34:18.887-06:002011-05-27T10:34:18.887-06:00I've seen that place of death before for men w...I've seen that place of death before for men who died around 1918. I figured they died in WWI, but I couldn't find them in any of the war casualty rolls, military cemeteries, etc. Now I know why (no pun intended).MNFamilyHistorianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219791448054464725noreply@blogger.com