tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post710150670830539386..comments2023-04-20T12:46:11.858-06:00Comments on The Ancestry Insider: Gordon Atkinson and Newspapers.com – #BYUFHGCThe Ancestry Insiderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02490682912125335188noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-74582816364184171912017-01-30T17:26:14.735-07:002017-01-30T17:26:14.735-07:00Same here. As if I wasn't enough already. Than...Same here. As if I wasn't enough already. Thanks for the info, Mary.Uncle Sporkumshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16060070855422586093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-76699560555561797112017-01-17T21:03:57.215-07:002017-01-17T21:03:57.215-07:00I'm a Publisher Extra subscriber and ran into ...I'm a Publisher Extra subscriber and ran into a bit of a surprise. The Detroit Free Press obits for 2012 are all blurred out! I emailed customer service and received this response: "The DFP blurred them out before they gave them to us for our site. You will need to contact them directly to get the original obituaries." Wow. Newspapers.com advertising leads one to believe that the entire edition is intact and complete. It really makes me wonder if there could be another subscription tier on the horizon there: an obit subscription! Needless to say, I'm very disappointed with newspapers.comMaryAnnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290005651059409172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-65659973596416245962016-11-03T20:22:03.482-06:002016-11-03T20:22:03.482-06:00Agreed. I recently suspended my Newspaper.com sub ...Agreed. I recently suspended my Newspaper.com sub and recently got into another source. I won't go into it at the moment, because I don't want those sharks to try to monopolize it out of business as well.Uncle Sporkumshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16060070855422586093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-19293347322211129802016-10-23T13:18:00.744-06:002016-10-23T13:18:00.744-06:00Yes, I complained about the same thing, they had m...Yes, I complained about the same thing, they had me sign up for all Access and Premium Fold3, and then did the Publishers Extra fraud, by wanting another $99 on top of the $99 I paid for All Access. I can't even get anyone to return my phone call at Newspapers.com. The support is horrible, you have to leave a message and then Seth emails you back, but he won't call you. They are very evasive and don't answer direct questions. Ancestry needs to bring them under the same roof and provide decent support. Another bad thing about Newspapers.com, is that it REQUIRES you to keep a subscription going. You can't clip the articles to ancestry and actually see the full article well, but as they told me, "those are only place holders." So "Save to Ancestry", is basically worthless, as you can't see the full article later on and the part that is saved as a bookmark is so small it is unreadable. Again, they do NOT fix or respond to complaints. Genealogybank.com is so much better in that you can just do a print screen and then crop the article in Paint and save and you have it forever on your computer. And the price is much less, basically half. Newspapers.com seems to have lots of bells and whistles, but they require you to keep signing up at $200 per year, which is ridiculous, as mentioned above. Now the latest gimmick of Newspapers.com is a 6-months $75 subscription, and it doesn't appear the year is even available anymore.Rolodex1https://www.blogger.com/profile/00781035535296901228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-60306693135871448492016-09-14T14:17:07.977-06:002016-09-14T14:17:07.977-06:00As of 9/7/2016 or maybe earlier, an ALL Access Anc...As of 9/7/2016 or maybe earlier, an ALL Access Ancestry.com subscription DOES NOT get you access to all of newspapers.com. To get ALL access on newspaper.com you have to buy an additional subscription. A TOTAL ripoff after ancestry.com touting ALL Access as everything. I feel cheated and would like a refund but there is no way to get one.conditdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16449417251675947844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-8573596435343574232016-08-28T16:50:59.530-06:002016-08-28T16:50:59.530-06:00Dear Some One,
Is this still a problem?
--- The ...Dear Some One,<br /><br />Is this still a problem?<br /><br />--- The Ancestry InsiderThe Ancestry Insiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02490682912125335188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-64049121458917733472016-08-18T11:40:15.051-06:002016-08-18T11:40:15.051-06:00Larry,
Thanks for your kind comments.
One possibl...Larry,<br />Thanks for your kind comments.<br /><br />One possible explanation for public domain newspapers being available only via premium subscription is contract law. The scenario works like this: Imagine that all copies of a particular issue have perished except the one in my possession. You wish to see it and so you sign a contract with me in which I agree to let you see it and you agree to pay me money to do so. That contract could have all sorts of other terms. We could agree that you get to make a copy. We could agree that you get to show that copy to other people under certain, strict, predetermined conditions.<br /><br />It really doesn't matter if the issue is in the public domain or not. And it doesn't matter how many copies are extant. So long as the terms of the contract don't break the law, we can agree upon anything we wish.<br /><br />---taiThe Ancestry Insiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02490682912125335188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-84796076190355491742016-08-18T06:56:58.072-06:002016-08-18T06:56:58.072-06:00Thanks for the article. I learned a lot.
As to th...Thanks for the article. I learned a lot.<br /><br />As to the 1922 copyright cutoff date it didn’t explain why some papers, as below, are charged as premium content even though in the public domain.<br /><br />The Evening Star (Franklin, Indiana) 1912-1919<br />Chicago Daily Tribune (Chicago, Illinois) 1861-1922<br /><br />I subscribe to one premium paper only (Southern Illinoisan) since it is one of the few papers relevant to my research. The others that I would use have been online for many years (probably from the one-time NewspaperARCHIVE partnership with Ancestry that it is more cost effective to use the NewspaperARCHIVE library edition several times a year than pay Newpapers.com.<br /><br />I check the Newspapers.com website every few weeks to see if anything has been added to make it worthwhile to get a full subscription. My major complaint with Newspapers.com, and all other genealogy site I’m familiar with, is they flag “Updated” items but never add any information as to what has changed. <br /><br />The only big advantage NewspaperARCHIVE has is you are able to grab the actual text for a Word file there while Newspapers.com limits you to a jpg or pdf and you must input the text yourself.<br /><br />Keep up your great reporting.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217521041924840394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-57599079266902949082016-08-17T14:49:00.455-06:002016-08-17T14:49:00.455-06:00Re: "Save to Ancestry" button for clippi...Re: "Save to Ancestry" button for clippings. This changed about two weeks ago and the new script does not allow me to select trees that I am editor of, only trees that I own. Newspapers.com support said to contact Ancestry.com support, not their problem.<br />I then contacted Ancestry.com support and they said to contact Newspapers.com, not an Ancestry.com issue.<br /><br />AAARRGGHHH!! - So frustrating! I think it is related to the change to HTML5 script from the Flash version of the button.<br /><br />Fold3.com still has the old button which works properly.<br /><br />Any suggestions on who can get this working?<br />Thanks,Some Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919203583401524252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5512311610334754148.post-74207016455674728172016-08-17T12:55:20.012-06:002016-08-17T12:55:20.012-06:00I use newspapers.com and genealogybank in my histo...I use newspapers.com and genealogybank in my historical research (mostly I research African Americans before World War I, I don't have time for much genealogy these days). I prefer the newspapers.com experience, but I get more results from genealogybank, definitely. newspapers.com does seem to be catching up, though, and clippings are really useful. I wish both would include more African American newspapers, and I turn to chroniclingAmerica sometimes, but feel the user experience is the worst with that site, even though it is free.Shane Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407970433509774537noreply@blogger.com