Friday, August 15, 2014 New Terms and Conditions

Clipart of contract by AlastairOn the first of August, released new terms and conditions. Keep in mind that I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV. My opinions about the Ts & Cs should not be considered legal counsel. If you have questions, be sure to consult a licensed attorney. One schooled in Utah contract law might be advisable because my understanding is that merely using establishes a contract between and yourself. That contract is the Ts & Cs, so it is good to read through them once in awhile. Here are some changes I thought interesting:

The new terms and conditions apply to,, and I don’t know how much the Ts & Cs of these three differed before, but it is certainly easier for users to have just one to understand. However,,, and were removed from the list of “the Ancestry Community.” has added a section explaining that the contents of the websites are provided AS IS. While they attempt to make it accurate, they make no claim that it is “complete, accurate, reliable or error-free.”

I often hear people ask if they can download stuff from and put it up on FamilySearch Family Tree. has added language clarifying what can and can’t be done:

You may access the Websites and use the Content only for personal or professional family history research, and download Content only as search results relevant to that research. For example, the download of the whole or material parts of any work or database is prohibited. Resale of a work or database or portion thereof is prohibited. Online or other republication of Content is prohibited except as unique data elements that are part of a unique family history or genealogy.

Interpretation of the word unique there seems pretty important. Tempting as it is, I’ll resist giving any. has added a section addressing the issue of the public domain documents it has digitized (mostly from NARA).

Ancestry does not claim an exclusive right to images already in the public domain that it has converted into a digital format. However, the Websites contain images or documents…that, even if in the public domain, are subject to restrictions on reuse. By [accessing the Websites], you agree to not reuse these images or documents except that you may reuse public domain images so long as you only use small portions of the images or documents for personal use. If you republish public domain images, you agree to credit the relevant Ancestry Website as the source of the digital image, unless additional specific restrictions apply. If you wish to republish more than a small portion of the images or documents from any of the Websites, you agree to obtain prior written permission from us.

I skipped some language of that section to emphasize your contract regarding public domain images. Let me do the reverse now for non-public domain images.

The Websites contain images or documents that are protected by copyrights or that…are subject to restrictions on reuse. By [accessing the Websites], you agree to not reuse these images or documents….

When you contribute content to websites, you grant them a license to use it. That only makes sense. They have strengthened the wording of that license by specifying the license is “perpetual, royalty-free, [and] world-wide” and licenses them to “otherwise use your submission to the extent…we deem appropriate…. This license continues even if you stop using the Websites or the Services.” As before, you still retain ownership of your content. You just can’t demand that give it back to you.’s hasn’t yet closed the loophole that I’ve seen used to allow multiple people to justify sharing a single subscription. In both the old and new Ts & Cs, specifies that “distribution of your password to others for access to Ancestry is expressly prohibited.” To this they have clarified that “you must keep your account password secure.” I’ve seen people login to a subscription in a public place and leave it logged in with the express purpose of allowing a group to use that one subscription. Should someone accidentally logout, the account holder must show up and reenter the password, so as to not violate the Ts & Cs.

You should not depend on what I’ve said here. You should read the Ts & Cs for yourself at The old Ts & Cs are available at


  1. Christa Cowan of Ancestry stated in Ancestry's Facebook group the company allows a couple in the same household to use one account to access one paying subscription. They can both be using it at the same time, but if a third device tries using it when two other devices are actively using Ancestry, one will get the boot. For the old T&C on Fold3 and, they pretty much mirrored Ancestry's. The addition of ToS to Find-A-Grave was a big clue Ancestry was grabbing it up because a lot of the ToS were a copy of Ancestry's, substituting Findagrave in place of Ancestry. Findagrave updated its ToS and Privacy Policy in May, but I never saw them post the red updated notice they used in the past to let people know.

    On the perpetual, they took that page from FamilySearch. If they are trying to discourage people from uploading stuff, perpetual is the way to do it.

  2. Just thinking.......and trying to stay at least even with ToS everywhere...........will this be the beginning of the end of these online sources for me..........thinking down the road a couple of years..........and how things have changed in this past year........ A lot of products I used to use have been "improved" so much I no longer use them. I've hesitated to buy the Family Tree software upgrade because the only thing I want on it is the family view of the pedigree. I can find who I need so much quicker/easier that way so I use the web site to do my actual work and then sync my tree every week or so. familysearch fell by the wayside 2 years ago. And it's not limited to web sites. It's many products from many different categories.

  3. So, one wonders, what is happening to now that it is no longer part of the 'Ancestry community'?

    1. I think all of us would like to know that answer. ANCESTRY powers that be, any answers??????????/


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